Complete Interview with Cpl. John C. Curran, USMC
February 22, 2007
Name: John Conor Curran
Age: 23
Location: Camp Lejeune, North Carolina
Length of time in service: Two years, 10 months
Why did you sign up? Let’s see… Money, college opportunities, to change my life for the better and avoid where it was going.
Has it changed your life for the better? It has. Yea.
How so? It took me away from bad situations at home and taught me financial discipline and just… taught me things like commitment to a job. Many things people don’t have anymore.
Who was your recruitment officer? Staff Sergeant Patterson.
What did he tell you about the Marines? The Marine Corps is different than the other branches. They’ve [the Marines] got a reputation for being a tougher branch. Most people [recruits] already have their minds made up. He [Staff Sgt. Patterson] was helpful in choosing a job for me. If you show interest, they try to keep your interest.
What did you think of him? I liked him. He’s a good guy. Recruiters have a stigma of being shady and trying to get you to join, regardless of what they say is the truth or not, but he was a good guy.
Where you nervous about any aspects of joining? Yea, Marine Corps Boot Camp horror stories have made it out into the public… Like what’s that Vietnam movie?
Full Metal Jacket? Yea.
Do you think about politics/foreign policy/world news often? Yea.
When thinking about joining the military, did you think about the U.S. involvement in Afghanistan and Iraq? No, I mean there is a kind of “For Whom the Bell Tolls,” slightly romanticized factor, but most of us have joined for financial or other reasons. We just happened to be in war.
So the war wasn’t any kind of deterrent for you when you were thinking about joining? No. With most of the guys that join, including myself, we need a lifestyle change so badly that the possibility of war outweighs the direction our lives were headed if we didn’t…
Considering that you’ve been there, this is kind of a stupid question, but you think a bout the situation in Iraq often? Yea.
When you think about it, how do you feel? From the beginning, I’ve never agreed with the war in Iraq so I don’t like it, naturally. I don’t know.
Any opinions? Thoughts? It was ridiculous to begin with and it’s not been handled well. It’s going to be tough to end and hard to win if we do, indeed, try to “win” it. We haven’t been handling relations with Iran well either. Basically, our leaders haven’t been doing a good job. I suppose you could call me a sellout. I’d rather not be a junky.
Do you want to say anything about your personal experience in Iraq? It’s enlightening…
How so? Pretty much in all aspects of life: the human spirit, politics, religion. It puts about 5-10 years in your brain in about 7 months. I’d like to expand on that more, but it’d take me a long, long, long, long, long time to do, so…
What do you think about most when you’re over there? Yea, I think most of the time I try to switch to a more shallow existence, just because dwelling on somewhere like home when you’re there can flat out be dangerous. Your mind needs to be in the present situation. I try to be superficial about most things as a coping, well, a preventative coping mechanism.
Do you have friends in the military? Uh, yea. Pretty much the only friends I have anymore.
Are these friends different than the friends you had before you were in the military?
Yea, for the most part. I mean, I keep to myself more here. There is a different quality of people in the military. But still, I’m friends with a lot of good guys. Different guys but good guys.
How are they different? Oh, just politically. And none of them would fall into the “artistic” clique that I would fall into back home.
So how are people in the military different from civilians? There are kind of two pedigrees of guys, and it’s pretty much half and half. The first half is fuck ups that need lifestyle change and approached the military as a last option. The other half have always wanted to be in the military, blah blah blah. Idealistically and romantically. Only about 20% of those joined because they actually believed in the war.
How did your parents feel when you joined the military? I believe they were proud that I was manning up to some of my debt and bad decisions by joining the military. Naturally they were concerned because of the war; concerned yet proud.
Do civilians treat you differently? What do you mean?
Well, when you’re home or off base and around people who aren’t in the military, do you find that they treat you differently than they would if you weren’t in the military? Yea, every now and then I’ll get an asshole that’s upset with me for being in the military. But for the most part, everyone is pretty nice and supportive, trying to make sure that what happened in Vietnam doesn’t happen again. They understand that lower class citizens don’t necessarily have a way out except for the military so usually, everyone is pretty supportive.
Just to get this straight, are you saying, by relation, I’m a low class girl? No.
Good. Are you glad you joined? Yea, it’s helped. It’s definitely… I’ve disciplined myself, I’ll be able to go to college. It’s shown me things. I’ve traveled. I’m definitely coming out a better person
Would you recommend the military? Umm… (pause)… yea, I suppose. Yea, only in certain instances when someone’s stuck and wasting life away.
But it’s not good for anyone else? It could be, but I wouldn’t recommend it. I wouldn’t put my name on it. I wouldn’t want to be responsible for someone regretting the next four years of their life
Would you ever be a recruiter? No.
What traits do recruiters have that make them fit to be recruiters? Most of them plan a career in the military in the first place, which I don’t. A lot of them develop a moral standoff to advance at their job. There are many not so good recruiters who will do what they have to to get someone to enlist because they have certain quotas to fill to get promoted and stay in good standing and whatnot.
So if you came across a fresh faced young guy who was excited to join, what advice would you give him? I’d just ask if he’s ready to not have control of his life for the next four years.
Is there any advice you wish you’d have gotten from your recruiter or anyone else? No, not really. The past three years have been a huge process of learning for myself, and I think most military recruiters know that. It’s a discovery process. Advice could hinder a lesson better learned through experience
Do you have contact with women troops? I did at my last station. But I’m basic Marine Corps infantry and that’s one of the few remaining areas where women are not allowed in the service
Do you have any advice for women wanting to join the military? Don’t be sluts.
Will you remain in the military after your required four years are up? No.
What are you going to do? Live a life of freedom that I’ll thoroughly enjoy.
Freedom as in freedom from the military, or freedom as in “it’s a free country and I paid for it, damn it?” Freedom from being in the military.
How’s your girlfriend? She’s fine.
How often are you able to see her? Not often. In the past two years, I’ve seen her for maybe 60 days.
That sucks. Yea.
Where were you stationed in Iraq? Camp Al Taqaddum.
How long were you there? Seven months.
Are you going back to Iraq? Yes.
When? In April.
For how long? Seven months. Well, actually, “unknown.”
Why unknown? Because with the recent troop surge, they’ve been keeping troops there for extended periods. Whether that will apply to us we have yet to find out.
How did you feel when you heard about the surge? I thought it was a futile effort, but I was going back in September anyway. So basically I was unaffected. But this way I will have time to put my life in order when I come back before being a civilian again.
When was the first time you seriously considered joining the military? At the end of high school I entertained the idea slightly. I was looking for a job where I wouldn’t be stuck behind a desk. I took a test for the Navy. But then I went to college. When I started screwing up at college the idea came back. After college and more screwing up, I decided that getting out of the area and joining the military would be in my best interest.
Well, I don’t have any more questions. Is there anything you want to say? Let’s see, I’m looking at your blog… Oh. Also, I know a lot of people join because there is still the idea that if they chose the right job they won’t have to go to war, just have a cush job and bring home a paycheck. Not so much in the Marines but some. They think that if they’re a cook or mechanic they’ll be able to avoid seeing the war and still get the benefits of pay, the G.I. Bill, etc.
Have you known Marines like that? Yea.
Have you seen their rude awakenings? Yea, I’ve seen people desert. Yea, I’ve seen it. I’ve seen people that have been over there a couple of times and are pretty close to refusing to go back.
Do you think that’s a result of just not wanting to get their hands dirty? I mean, everyone knows that death is a high possibility in active military. Or is it something else… like not wanting to go back because they did not really understanding what the job entails when they signed up? I think you’ve got it; I think it’s a combination of both. A lot of them don’t want to die. Most people are removed from the fact that they could die until they go over there and experience something close.
Alright, I have a few more, kind of off topic questions… What’s your favorite movie? Oh… probably Lock, Stock [and Two Smoking Barrels]
Did you know that they’re making a “Boondock Saints Two?” That’s dumb.
I know. What’s your favorite book? Right now I’ll say Lolita. The style that the author uses is really good.
Oh my gosh, have you seen the movie, Lolita? No.
It’s insane. It’s so funny. It’s unique. But I can imagine that the book would be better. Yea, the way Nabokov uses the nuances of the English language…
What’s your favorite Website? Pitchforkmedia.com.
What’s that? It’s a music website for independent label bands
Where do you get your news? The Drudge Report. Drudgereport.com.
Why? It’s really fast to know and post stuff. They use Reuters and have links to other accredited sites. His main sources for accredited news are Reuters, AP, and New York Times, etc.
What is your favorite band? This is tough
Yea, because you’re a music whore. Currently a lot of Kingston Trio and Irish Rovers. But I always come back to Modest Mouse.
Alright, thanks. You’re done with me?
I guess, I don’t have any more questions! Wait, I’m reading your first post again… let me see… You ask “what do recruits have that’s unique.” They have a stronger desire to change either themselves or the world than most people do.
What do you think of people who sign up then refuse to go to war? I can definitely see that they weren’t expecting it. I might be slightly old fashioned but that’s kind of cowardly. But I mean, if they don’t believe in war, I understand.
You also ask about people signing up during war.
Yea, we kind of talked about that. Does war deter potential service people? Not mostly. Most are lower class and in need of change. I know that the army has lowered their standards to keep recruitment numbers up.
So they’re lowering their standards so they can make their quotas? Yea. They’re [the military] is having trouble holding onto military members for reenlistment. Many don’t want to because they’re sick of being thrown around. The Marine Corps just started offering a $10,000 reenlistment bonus, regardless of job. They’ve [the military] also created special programs like two years of active duty instead of four, like Andrew [our brother]. He’s doing 15 months out of [training] school.
A few days ago I watched some slideshows on the MSNBC website. I was in the library and I started crying when I was watching one that had pictures of wounded soldiers receiving medical treatment. It was really intense. Anyway, there was also a photo of a translator. The caption read that he had to keep his face covered when he was doing his job or insurgents would come after him and his family. Yea, one of our translators got whacked. He went home on vacation. They found out what he was doing and he is no more.
So he was an Iraqi who speaks English? Yea, a lot of them are.
Why are Iraqis working with our troops? A lot of them are part of the Iraqi army which is working with our military over there. It’s not trench versus trench over there. Front lines come and go and disappear. We need translators to keep up good relations. We need to have good relations with the Iraqi people.